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:what is the dynamic of michelle obama and barack. >> what's fascinating is how it changed in the white house. when you were interveeg the president on cbs i was struck by what he said had happened though his relationship in the white house. it was consistent when i had heard which is the white house does tend to draw presidential couples together. the presre is extraordinary. only person you can trust let down your guard with. obamas such enormous challenges. before the white house they had more of a dialectic. this was fascinate bg their relationship. the president believed politics could be a vehicle for change and the political life could be livable. the first lady did not believe that politics was a valid viable way of creating social change, that political life was livable. all these years it's almost like their marriage is an extended debate wher they're trying to figure out the answer to those questions. she, i think, has been converted. michelle obama who hesitated about moving to the white house, who felt unease with politics had a rough first year behind-the-scenes as first lady. has found s
anticipated linup of speaks icludes first lady michelle obama and former president bill clinton. the convention concludes on thursday with vice president joe biden and finally the president and his acceptance speech. joining me now in charlotte, mark halperin, the editor at large for "time" magazine. >> welcome. i need to introduce to you-- i need not introduce to you this program and this audience but it is a good way to start, you know. tell me what ought to come out of this convention? what should the democrats hope to accomplish in the same way the republicans hope to do two things, on todefi the goodhin and he likable things about mitt romney and at the same time, suggest to those democrats who like barack obama but might be willing to change why they should change. >> i think from talk together democrats, both those working for the president and other smart democrats i think there is three broad things. one is to put the frame on mitt romney, the negative frame on him in a way that does not seem mean-spirited, that does not seem challengeable in the facts. just to sort of
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